Posts by life is to short

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The handling of child abuse allegations

by Landy in

there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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Landy spent the whole weekend swearing at me and call me all kind's of degrading name and trying his best to derail anything that I or anyone else said on this subject that was not to his liking, Please I beg of everyone to take this seriously and not let Landy and his buddy have their way..

According to SNAP and the research that they have done for every victim that has the courage to come forward and report a rape or molestation there are 9 other victims that do not have the courage to do that.

RO said very clearly on Tuesday what his agenda is "I will go away when everyone stops lying about Watchtower."

RO is clearly on the side of the WT.

Landy refuses to believe that there is even a broadcasting network here in the US called PSB as you can see by his comment here

why did Trey Bundy from NPR, and PBS just do reports on them

Who?"

Seriously this person Landy openly admitted that he had not heard of NPR or PBS and everyone takes what he say as points to consider.

This is how he feels about this subject from his own words

"I think you give them too much credit. Humanity doesn't give be a shit about the JWs - thankfully they're insignificant. To everyone that isn't a witness or ex-witness they're a bunch of slighty odd but generally nice people who disturb them on a Sunday morning.

If you asked 100 people if they had heard of the AR commission, I would be amazed if even one had."

The misspelled word is his not my as he jumped all over me for a word that my phone misspelled but I digress.

Please I beg of everyone to Listen to NPR and Trey Bundy on Reveal, It was just done in December of 2016 less than 8 weeks ago. Watch PBS from last year with Trey Bundy, contact SNAP.

Please do not let ones like RO and Landy keep debating this subject. To Landy this is just a huge joke that he is getting is sick kicks out of by belittling and insulting ones who have been harmed and injured to the point that many commit suicide.

This is one of Landy's responses to me over the weekend. .

I'll tell you what - I'll do a quick survey at work tomorrow. I'll ask a few if they've heard of a Trey Bundy or SNAP. I work with some pretty well educated people including PhDs and Chartered Engineers. It should be a good litmus test. I'll report back with the results..

It just so how uneducated and ignorant you are and the fact that you refuse to even look it up says volumes about what you have posted and your slamming, belittling and insulting me

It's you're btw. Or put an of in between insulting and me. I wouldn't have mentioned it normally but seeing as you've called me uneducated and ignorant....

Or this one

"you are totally unhinged aren't you? Nuttier than squirrel shit."

Or this one

"Hey, I've spent the day watching season 7 of The West Wing and annoying you. What's not to like"

This sums up what Landy and RO are about, Debating and derailing, casing page after page of belittling remarks toward those who disagree with him, refusing to look at proven facts or like that PBS and NPR even exist while he watches the West Wing.

This subject of child rape. Children being harmed for the rest of their lives because of the JW's and their policies is to huge to allow ones like Landy and RO to down play.

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What finally helped you to peek behind the curtain

by UnshackleTheChains in

i'm interested in finding out what it was that finally enabled you to open your eyes to the real truth of watchtower.

what started me thinking, was the societys very own book...' 'revelation..it's grand climax at hand'.

i found that book farcicle.

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Pure and simple it was child molesters in my hall and the way the elder's handled it. If it were not for that I probably would still be a JW.

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Why so few XJWs online?

by StephaneLaliberte in

not too long ago, i posted a topic where i pointed out that there are about 1 million xjws alive right now.

that number only represented the disfellowshipped ones... didn't account for those who had become publishers and left or anyone else who got hurt by that group by proxy.

so, why are there so few of them online?

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I think JWdaughter summed it up very well many of us totally bought into it and it left a huge stain on our lives. I love the way she put it.

I also think that they are some very disturbed exJW's and when you have the unpleasant experience of running into them you, it just brings home all the pain you went through while being JW all over again.

Take the problem of the child molesters in the religion, there were some very great posts in the last 2 weeks on how this is being brought into the new's through newspaper ad's and TV ad's. Yet there were 2 poster's on this board who train wrecked, derailed, trashed and diminished, slammed, put down, swore, belittled, insulated and than claimed that everyone else was biased and had to much of their old JW personality in them. One went so far as to say in his own words, "simply presenting useful info is pretty shocking and shows that one or two of you haven't quite thrown off the JW judgemental mindset as much as you think you have."

This person posted that statement after some dared to question him and his sidekick poster. I know JWdaughter made a great comment and this poster came at her and tore her post apart and used swear words to drive home his point.

This poster told me I lived in my own small bubble because I have heard of (SNAP) Survivors of Network of Those Abused by Priests. He told me I was crazy because I heard of Trey Bundy and Reveal on NPR, and PBS.

Seriously ones on this board do not know what NPR and PBS is and there have been huge threads on Trey Bundy and his work with Reveal. Yet this posters insisted on swearing and belittling me for bringing this up, insisting that the problem with the child rapists in the JW's will just blow over again even with these ad's.

I think back to, to the first of this month when Randy Waters came on with his rant against Barbara Anderson. As long as people (ex JW's) keep attacking each other and trying to destroy, demoralize, degrade, belittle each other, it scares people away.

I do not understand it, It makes no sense, why not treat each other with some sort of dignity, why derail threads they do not agree with page after page of put downs to ones who have honest questions. Then come back and try to make it seem like they are being persecuted and everyone else has a problem because a few dare to stand up to their way of thinking. So this poster and his side kick do not think that the ad;s mean anything, good for them, they have never heard of NPR or PBS which here in the US are huge broadcasting networks. They have never heard of Trey Bundy all they have to do is Google him but instead they insist on spending their time attacking everyone on a thread to bring it down.

I have seen this happen also outside of the internet. In the real world also. So many ex JW's love the lime light they want to be the next Leah Remini, but instead of coming off with their act together like Leah does they look to do what Rick Fearon of six screens of the Watchtower with Johnny the exBethelight does and they become a joke instead.

I just wish the ex JW's were not so mean and spiteful to each other. I do not know what the answer is but I do know it is very disheartening.

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Skinned and Thrown About.....

by Tech49 in

this is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".

with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".

recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.

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sparkly 1 you are spot on about Don Underwood, he was a very simpleminded man who only did the WT bidding. He also had a family and did not put the kingdom first in his life but only came to Bethel after his kids were grown. That always upset me because I wanted to have a family also but I was waiting on the new system like I was told to do. Seeing ones like Don living a life I wanted to have was discouraging.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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I do not call it annoying me, I call it being mentally unbalanced and a quite sick. I mean really this is your life? Swearing at someone on a computer that you do not know, calling that person all kinds of degrading names? Especially about a subject as serious as the rape of children.

You have a lot to be proud of there Landy. You go.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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Have to have the last word Landy, and you say I am not getting to you.

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Skinned and Thrown About.....

by Tech49 in

this is a little long, but stick with me.. if you recall, when the building work was in full swing at the new lakefront villa (warwick), wt was having workers come and they would put them up for a year, or more, while they were providing "volunteer services".

with that, and the impending need for hundreds and hundreds of new khs in the usa territory, the congregations were abuzz with the need for "continued construction volunteers".

recently, as many of you know, wt headquarters has sent pretty much everyone home, and is no longer needing workers at the new warwick site, as the building is mostly complete, with the dedication coming up later this year.

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I also remember when we were at Bethel Brother Don Underwood was in charge of the construction in foreign branches. I remember one time when I was at lunch he went off on those who applied expecting help with plane fares. If you applied to do international construction you and you were assigned to a expensive country and could not afford it you would be blacklisted and could not go to work for them for 5 years. So if you say had saved up to 3,000 but were sent to a country where the plane ticket cost 4,000 and could just not afford it then you could not volunteer for 5 years. Brother Underwood was upset that anyone would even dare to ask for help to get to their assignment. I clearly remember him saying why should Bethel help out anyone, why did they not count the cost.Luke 14:28.

I was just blown away by his comments, plus he seemed worked up over it that anyone would dare to ask for any help.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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Nice Landy I hope you do get a life because I really did get to you. Nice to know.

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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So now you go to insulting me. Good shows where you are really coming from. I am in my "own little world," yet you have never heard of huge media organizations like NPR and PBS, who's in their own little world? And if "you do not get offended as you stated here " I don't get offended on Internet forums." why are you debating me?

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Any updates on the org's $4000 per day fine?

by The Searcher in

http://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2016/jun/24/ticker-judge-sanctions-jehovahs-witnesses/#.

it's heading towards $900,000 now..

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I just got to thinking AlltimeJeff just did a thread on Gaslighting. This is exactly what you have been doing to me Landy. Trying to make me feel crazy, name calling, etc. Than when I call you out on it you throw it back at me trying to make me out to be the one attacking you. Making yourself the victim, being insulted because I called you uneducated and ignorant. I am not saying in life in general that you are ignorant or uneducated but when it comes to this topic of child molesters and you refuse even though it is right in front of you, all you have to do is type in the words yet you refuse and instead say you do not need to because as you put it, "not everyone has the same priorities and the safeguarding policies of a minor restorationist religion are of no concern to the vast majority of people."

But see it is to a lot of people, people like Trey Bundy and SNAP, NPR, PBS.

So even though right in front of you right now you can type in the words you have to wait until tomorrow. If that is not gaslighting me than what is.

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